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Choosing Curiosity When Living with Discomfort with Grace P Cho and Dr. Lucretia Carter Berry

December 12, 2022

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Is it possible to live with disagreement? An Interview with Grace P. Cho and Dr. Lucretia Carter Berry

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This season we are celebrating the fact that Jesus chose to inconvenience Himself by joining us here on earth to take our sins on His body. And the Word tells us while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

The least we can do is open our hearts to those who may be difficult to love and make room at our tables to share His love with them in return. 

Jesus said, “They will know you by your love,” in John 13:35, but that love is being challenged through the spiritual warfare the Body of Christ has been enduring lately. And it is time for us to realize it.

Spiritual warfare is the opposition we experience from the Enemy that challenges our intimacy and authority in the Lord, and it affects everything else that we do. It affects how we show up in the world. It affects how we connect with others, and it affects how we shine the light of Christ.

Let’s talk about:

  • how we can learn from others who may not be like us at first glance,
  • how we can grow in intimacy with one another,
  • and how we can develop greater character through the challenges we encounter and the questions we ask.

Today, we’re reflecting on Colossians 3:12-15

It reads, “Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone.

Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.

Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts since, as members of one body, you were called to peace. And be thankful. 

Grace and Dr. Lucretia Challenged Us to Think About:

  • How to engage with others who have different opinions and beliefs than yourself
  • Differences between curious and being nosy
  • How important it is to allow curiosity to inform your interactions with others
  • Living with discomfort in your marriage
  • Learning how to forgive others when it’s harder than you thought

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Meet Grace P. Cho

Grace P. Cho is a Korean American writer, editor, poet, and speaker. She creates space for people to be known, nurtured, and challenged through her work and desires to elevate women of color’s voices in the publishing industry.

Grace is also the co-editor of Take Heart: 100 Devotions to Seeing God When Life’s Not Okay, co-author of Empowered: More of Him for All of You, author of the (in)courage Bible studies, Courageous Influence and Create in Me a Heart of Wisdom, and a contributor for the upcoming collection of essays, poems, and liturgies, Voices of Lament: Reflections on Brokenness and Hope in a World Longing for Justice (releases September 20, 2022). You can find more from Grace at https://www.gracepcho.com/.

Meet Dr. Lucretia Carter Berry

Brownicity’s President & Learning Community Director, Lucretia Carter Berry, PhD is an antiracism curriculum specialist, course designer and author of What LIES Between Us – Fostering First Steps Toward Racial Healing, a TEDx speaker, and a writer for in(courage).me. She earned her Ph.D. in Curriculum and Instruction from Iowa State University and her BA from South Carolina State University.

You can find more from Dr. Lucretia at https://brownicity.com/.

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There is nothing Liv loves to talk about more than the Word of God. She is a Bible teacher, author, and the podcast host of The Best Kept Secret with Liv Dooley.

Liv is passionate about helping others enjoy greater intimacy and authority in Christ Jesus.  When Liv is not writing, teaching, or podcasting, you can find her hiking a mountain, taking a road trip with her husband, or curled up in the corner with a good book. You can connect with Liv on IG at @candidliv.


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